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Since: Jul 29, 2004
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(Msg. 16) Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:00 am
Post subject: Re: Windows 2003 SBS Hangs on "Applying computer Settings" [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I think that this prooves to us all how important these Newsgroups and
knowledge sharing is.
"PK" wrote:
> Jason Miller wrote:
> > just a very wild 'that sounds like something I've heard before' association:
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> Your wild guess was quite accurate in my case. Wish you had posted
> this about 4 hours earlier!
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> Anyway, my quick fix for this was to disable two services:
> APC PBE Server
> APC PBE Agent
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> Everything was back to normal. Wierd stuff.
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Since: Aug 01, 2005
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 3:20 pm
Post subject: RE: Windows 2003 SBS Hangs on "Applying computer Settings" [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I only chased it for about 2 hours this afternoon, but with 20 users sitting
around on
their hands (this was after an unplanned shutdown of the server).
Thanks so much for posting.
Chris Goldberg
"Chad Smith" wrote:
> I Have been chasing this problem for three days checked the newsgroups
> on wednesday and only a couple of posts; I chewed the Office manager from one
> end of the Office to the Other, good resolution. Since we have a resolution
> all is Great lets all just be happy we didn't have to pour 15-20 hours into
> rebuilding a server and recovering data but I that APC could be held
> responcible they have my account on file and no notification; this will cost
> american business millions of dollars. I'm getting tired of lack of
> responcibilty.
> I'm just glad no more problems.
>
> Chad Smith
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> "KSCHARNHORST" wrote:
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> > After rebooting a server that has just 5 clients connected to it, the server
> > came up,
> > quickly did preparing network connections and then hung at applying computer
> > settings for over 2 hours. Then when presented with the ctrl+alt+del, I log
> > in and
> > it did applying computer settings again for another 30 min.
> >
> > All services seem to have fired up as normal and there are no entries in the
> > event
> > log that would make me think anything was wrong. Exchange server runs on
> > this server and all email services are working as expected.
> >
> > Another odd thing is that when I know launch internet explorer and try to go
> > to a website, it doesn't even appear to be trying to resolve the address.
> >
> > Please help....and thank you in advance for your help! |
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Since: Aug 02, 2005
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:44 am
Post subject: Re: Windows 2003 SBS Hangs on "Applying computer Settings" [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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All,
I experienced this problem as well, at one point I had 600 users down
until I found this post and realised what was causing the issue. Are
any of you considering taking legal action as a result of this?
I feel that had APC tested the app after 27th July 2005 (e.g. rolled
the date forward in their test environment) they would have seen the
problems that their software caused to Servers and tried to make people
more aware of the issue. >> Stay informed about: Windows 2003 SBS Hangs on "Applying computer Settings" |
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Since: Aug 02, 2005
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 8:53 am
Post subject: Re: Windows 2003 SBS Hangs on "Applying computer Settings" [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I agree. I am a consultant and have many clients with SBS and APC. I got call
from all of them on teh same day and went crazy. Some one should be held
accountable. However at one cleint even after uninstalling APC I still
havenot been able to resolve the issue. At other clients it was fine. Any
ideas of what could be still causing it.
"simon@sbridge.plus.com" wrote:
> All,
>
> I experienced this problem as well, at one point I had 600 users down
> until I found this post and realised what was causing the issue. Are
> any of you considering taking legal action as a result of this?
>
> I feel that had APC tested the app after 27th July 2005 (e.g. rolled
> the date forward in their test environment) they would have seen the
> problems that their software caused to Servers and tried to make people
> more aware of the issue.
>
> >> Stay informed about: Windows 2003 SBS Hangs on "Applying computer Settings" |
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Since: Aug 02, 2005
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 9:23 am
Post subject: Re: Windows 2003 SBS Hangs on "Applying computer Settings" [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Susan Bradley, CPA aka Eb
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:34 pm
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Apparently there was an email notification ahead of time.
You remember the Trend issue don't you?
Cost more in Attorneys fees.
simon DeleteThis @sbridge.plus.com wrote:
> All,
>
> I experienced this problem as well, at one point I had 600 users down
> until I found this post and realised what was causing the issue. Are
> any of you considering taking legal action as a result of this?
>
> I feel that had APC tested the app after 27th July 2005 (e.g. rolled
> the date forward in their test environment) they would have seen the
> problems that their software caused to Servers and tried to make people
> more aware of the issue.
> >> Stay informed about: Windows 2003 SBS Hangs on "Applying computer Settings" |
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Susan Bradley, CPA aka Eb
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:36 pm
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If I may be mean?
Why in the world did you not call PSS? They knew it...we knew it and
were later on in the day swapping emails with them about it.
How about not getting help when you need it, fault?
Stevel10 wrote:
> Great answer. Right on the money!
> I wish that I had this answer last Thursday when I had this problem. We
> spent 23 hours reloading the SBS 2003 server and migrating all of the
> users over to the new domain. So is it Sun's fault or American
> Power/APC's fault???
> nospam_slapha.DeleteThis@bellsouth.nospam.net
> >> Stay informed about: Windows 2003 SBS Hangs on "Applying computer Settings" |
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Since: Aug 03, 2005
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:41 pm
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Leythos wrote:
> Wrong, it's about proper methods and has nothing to do with
> Intelligence. The updates do not install on their own, unless you set
> them to, so that is action required.
But you're missing the point. Sure, the issue only shows up on a SP1
applied system, but the actual cause of the software failure is APC's
fault, not Microsoft's SP1 patch.
So even if you had tested the SP1 rollout...the bug wouldn't have shown
up until last wednesday!
--
Steven Vallarian
(who spent two days rebulding a domain because of this "little" bug) >> Stay informed about: Windows 2003 SBS Hangs on "Applying computer Settings" |
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:52 pm
Post subject: Re: Windows 2003 SBS Hangs on "Applying computer Settings" [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Let me be mean. Why did PSS not post it on there web site?
"Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks" wrote:
> If I may be mean?
>
> Why in the world did you not call PSS? They knew it...we knew it and
> were later on in the day swapping emails with them about it.
>
> How about not getting help when you need it, fault?
>
> Stevel10 wrote:
> > Great answer. Right on the money!
> > I wish that I had this answer last Thursday when I had this problem. We
> > spent 23 hours reloading the SBS 2003 server and migrating all of the
> > users over to the new domain. So is it Sun's fault or American
> > Power/APC's fault???
> > nospam_slapha.RemoveThis@bellsouth.nospam.net
> >
> >> Stay informed about: Windows 2003 SBS Hangs on "Applying computer Settings" |
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 2:36 pm
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While all of the blame gets thrown around, I just wanted to thank the forum
users who made us aware of the issue and how to fix it.
And although I received email notification of the expiration, there was no
mention of it's full impact on the operating system, or how to resolve the
issue in the event that an upgrade was not performed before the expiration
date.
It merely states,
"Failure to upgrade will render PowerChute Business Edition inoperable."
Lessons learned: 1. Read your email, and upgrade before the expiration date.
2. Check forums before trying to blindly tackle the issue. >> Stay informed about: Windows 2003 SBS Hangs on "Applying computer Settings" |
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Susan Bradley, CPA aka Eb
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 3:31 pm
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I don't they APC knew it was going to do this to be honest with you.
Ergo...the bigger issue here.
jnp213 wrote:
> While all of the blame gets thrown around, I just wanted to thank the forum
> users who made us aware of the issue and how to fix it.
> And although I received email notification of the expiration, there was no
> mention of it's full impact on the operating system, or how to resolve the
> issue in the event that an upgrade was not performed before the expiration
> date.
> It merely states,
> "Failure to upgrade will render PowerChute Business Edition inoperable."
>
> Lessons learned: 1. Read your email, and upgrade before the expiration date.
> 2. Check forums before trying to blindly tackle the issue. >> Stay informed about: Windows 2003 SBS Hangs on "Applying computer Settings" |
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(Msg. 27) Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 3:59 pm
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(Msg. 28) Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 4:00 pm
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>If you had cloned the server in order to test SP1 on your system, would
>you have missed it and still had the same problem? If you say YES, then
>you didn't actually have a good testing plan.
Anyone would have missed it, it's a date-bomb in the program! You're
telling me that your testing plan includes setting the data forward X
number of days / months???
Our SP1 testing plan included testing all installed applications, and
the APC services and application worked fine up until last wednesday
night. >> Stay informed about: Windows 2003 SBS Hangs on "Applying computer Settings" |
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Susan Bradley, CPA aka Eb
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(Msg. 29) Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 4:35 pm
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Microsoft PSS doesn't have a web site... it's this newsgroup.. and
besides it was an issue with APC, not Microsoft products.
Do you remember the Sharepoint issue.. we had official notification in
the SBS newsgroups when it was a Microsoft issue.
This was APC.
If you are a Microsoft Partner you have business down and support
options... use them.
PSS was supposed to post on Trend issues when Trend's dat file nailed my
server?
This is a bit ridiculous of a request in my opinion. Use the power of
the community but don't expect PSS to be putting out notifications on
the fly for third party software, me thinks.
Rajan wrote:
> Let me be mean. Why did PSS not post it on there web site?
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> "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks" wrote:
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>>If I may be mean?
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>>Why in the world did you not call PSS? They knew it...we knew it and
>>were later on in the day swapping emails with them about it.
>>
>>How about not getting help when you need it, fault?
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>>Stevel10 wrote:
>>
>>>Great answer. Right on the money!
>>>I wish that I had this answer last Thursday when I had this problem. We
>>>spent 23 hours reloading the SBS 2003 server and migrating all of the
>>>users over to the new domain. So is it Sun's fault or American
>>>Power/APC's fault???
>>>nospam_slapha@bellsouth.nospam.net
>>>
>> >> Stay informed about: Windows 2003 SBS Hangs on "Applying computer Settings" |
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(Msg. 30) Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 5:03 pm
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